If you're surprised, you're not paying attention

Interoperability

Port 25: The Open Source Community at Microsoft — Sat, 25 Oct 2008 02:02:01 GMT

Getting external feedback is always a good thing, and something that Microsoft has been trying to do

re: If you're surprised, you're not paying attention

Lucas — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 03:11:32 GMT

At least some mobile phone developers are starting to pay attention to CIFS and SMB, like Telexy with their SymSMB 2.00 for Series 60 3rd edition and SymSMB 3.00 for UIQ3.

It allows simultaneous 2(!) directional wireless file sharing between mobile phones and computers (XP, Vista, W2000, W2003, Linux, MAC) using Wi-Fi, 3G or other wireless protocol.

A Brief History of Open at Microsoft

Port 25: The Open Source Community at Microsoft — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:37:01 GMT

Four years ago, we started the Linux Lab at Microsoft. Two years ago, we established the Open Source

re: If you're surprised, you're not paying attention

davidmeyer — Mon, 07 Jan 2008 21:37:17 GMT

This is great stuff! I hope we'll see more of this as time goes on, because it is exactly what is needed...more positive press on things that matter to everyone. Good work guys! Dave

re: If you're surprised, you're not paying attention

fluke — Wed, 02 Jan 2008 18:41:38 GMT

There is also coverage of this at Groklaw: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20071220124013919 and an interview with Jeremy Allison at: http://www.linuxworld.com/podcasts/linux/2007/122007-linuxcast.html . I'm not surprised that Microsoft is being more open to the Samba developers since this is something that Port 25 has discussed before. The thing that surprises me is how unfriendly Microsoft sounds in these reports. In fact, until I read your side of the story, it sounded almost like Microsoft is doing the absolute minimal possible to satisfy the EU Commission. In the JA interview it is even said that the EU anti-trust case is key to the agreement happening, And Microsoft is getting 10,000 EURs for what JA describes as just bringing the Samba developers back to the level of access they had back in 1994. . However, now that I hear that MS is throwing in MSDN Premium subscriptions then I guess that should help soften the blow of paying 10,000 EURs. . The area that disappointed me the most was in the area of patents and GPL compatibility. It currently sounds like the agreement is GPL compatible because the Samba team will be doing the heavy lifting of working around MS patents. No one has brought up Microsoft's history with the Open Promise Specification or how this might further impact the agreement in the future. . Questions I am still left with regarding this agreement: . - Would Microsoft work with the Samba team to address any concerns they might have about compatibility between MS OSP and GPLv2/v3? . - What is Microsoft's roadmap for MS OSP? . - What percentage of the patents disclosed to the Samba team are on the roadmap for inclusion in the MS OSP? . - Is continued growth of the MS OSP even part of the roadmap or will it become mostly stagnant for 2008?

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Samba obtine acces la specificatiile Work Group Server Protocol

Weblogul lui Zoli — Fri, 21 Dec 2007 13:24:05 GMT

Adica protocoalele de "file, print, and user and group administrative services". Sam Ramji ne da detalii

re: If you're surprised, you're not paying attention

Sam Ramji — Fri, 21 Dec 2007 02:48:53 GMT

Thanks, Jonas. I read your article as well and appreciate the pointer. My team and I will continue to champion interoperability with open source software, and with Samba in particular.

re: If you're surprised, you're not paying attention

jonaso — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:02:49 GMT

Hi Sam, thanks for an interesting report. You're right that we need to keep working on interoperability, bit by bit :-) Here's the FSFE take on todays news if you're interested: http://www.fsfeurope.org/news/2007/news-20071220-01

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