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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://port25.technet.com/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Port 25: The Open Source Community at Microsoft : Bryan Kirschner, OSCON</title><link>http://port25.technet.com/archive/tags/Bryan+Kirschner/OSCON/default.aspx</link><description>Tags: Bryan Kirschner, OSCON</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2007.1 (Build: 40109.1145)</generator><item><title>Participating Actively</title><link>http://port25.technet.com/archive/2008/07/23/participating-actively.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:39:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">af7480c4-26b7-468d-87b0-2acebabb473d:20134</guid><dc:creator>Bryan Kirschner</dc:creator><slash:comments>4</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://port25.technet.com/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=20134</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://port25.technet.com/archive/2008/07/23/participating-actively.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;P&gt;Now that we’ve &lt;A href="http://port25.technet.com/archive/2008/07/18/participate-08.aspx" mce_href="http://port25.technet.com/archive/2008/07/18/participate-08.aspx"&gt;had our first “participate” event&lt;/A&gt; in conjunction with OSCON here in Portland, I wanted to share a few thoughts. This was a great experience and a great event—or, really, two consecutive events, the morning case study discussion and the afternoon panel.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;First I’ll talk about the case study and then build on comments from some folks who’ve “beaten me to the blog.” In the morning Karim Lakhani from Harvard led the group through a case study about a fast-growing company (&lt;A href="http://threadless.com/" mce_href="http://threadless.com/"&gt;Threadless t-shirts&lt;/A&gt;) built on community contribution and distributed innovation. This was basically like being in a Harvard Business School class with a bunch of super achievers, complete with questions and counter questions (John Wilbanks from Science Commons &lt;A href="http://network.nature.com/blogs/user/wilbanks/2008/07/21/user-innovation-in-science" mce_href="http://network.nature.com/blogs/user/wilbanks/2008/07/21/user-innovation-in-science"&gt;blogs about it here&lt;/A&gt;). Stepping back and taking a look at a whole bunch of concepts and practices that underlie open source in the software domain in another context (t-shirt design), IMO, really opened the floodgates on discussion—a discussion Karim (with regret) had to close as the buzz in the room kept right on going well over time and into lunch…&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;In the afternoon &lt;A href="http://en.oreilly.com/oscon2008/public/schedule/detail/3724" mce_href="http://en.oreilly.com/oscon2008/public/schedule/detail/3724"&gt;I was part of a panel discussion&lt;/A&gt; and Q and A that started back in the software domain specifically. The one thing I would definitely do differently is to couple the morning case study and the later panel discussion more tightly. Not everyone who could be part of one was part of the other this year, and the real “ah ha’s” for me came from being a part of both. Here’s what I took away overall.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I introduced the morning session by noting that we’re at the ten-year mark since the folks who founded the Open Source Initiative (OSI) &lt;A href="http://www.opensource.org/history" mce_href="http://www.opensource.org/history"&gt;rallied around the term “open source.”&lt;/A&gt; At last year’s OSCON, Bill Hilf announced we had launched &lt;A href="http://microsoft.com/opensource" mce_href="http://Microsoft.com/opensource"&gt;http://Microsoft.com/opensource&lt;/A&gt; , our first public, official, company-wide statement of policy and strategy on OSS. So (I said): “If you look at that span of time from 1998 to 2007, no one can accuse us of being precipitous, and no one can flatter us for being first adopters.” &lt;BR&gt;But there’s a benefit to being slow: other people don’t stand still stuff. That includes folks like Karim and another professor on our panel, Siobhan O’Mahony, doing research. I can’t emphasize enough the contributions their work and that of many others of their peers made to our first step in informing and building acceptance of that step into participation in 2007. We read it all.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;And this is where I’ll offer a different perspective than Zack—&lt;A href="http://weblog.infoworld.com/openresource/archives/2008/07/microsoft_at_os.html" mce_href="http://weblog.infoworld.com/openresource/archives/2008/07/microsoft_at_os.html"&gt;in his blog&lt;/A&gt; he said he felt the afternoon session (on which I really appreciated his participation and contributions) he felt a bit like “it was outside looking in” on open source and “academic.” With regard to the first point, one of my goals for next year is definitely to figure out how we integrate the “inside look out” (at another domain) like we did in the morning. With regard to the latter, here’s the interesting thing to me: “academic” can be pejorative when it means “divorced from any substantive decision-making”—that is, you’re just studying for the sake of studying. And I can where Zack is coming from: MySQL is one of the oldest OSS-based businesses. Zack was quite clear he knows how they manage their dev process and a bunch of other things. Unlike the folks at Threadless and perhaps many younger OSS-based companies, Zack and MySQL’s leadership team don’t even have to wonder about what to do if they are offered a big contract or billion-dollar buy out from a big established vendor…they’ve been there, done that. I respect that.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;But if like Zack (&lt;A href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-9994201-16.html" mce_href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-9994201-16.html"&gt;and Matt Asay&lt;/A&gt;, who couldn’t be at partcipate08…Matt, I’ve read your blogs for years, you’re a thoughtful guy, I would bet money you couldn’t help but love the morning session…save a date for 09!) you are encouraging Microsoft to make more code (or whole products) open source: on the Microsoft side “academic” insights are highly relevant and actionable. Siobhan almost literally wrote the book on how &lt;A href="http://harvardbusinessonline.hbsp.harvard.edu/b02/en/search/searchResults.jhtml?Ntt=o%27mahony&amp;amp;searchCategory=hbo&amp;amp;N=0&amp;amp;hbr=%2Fhbrol%2Fen%2Fsearch%2FsaSearchResults.jhtml&amp;amp;hbo=%2Fb02%2Fen%2Fsearch%2FsearchResults.jhtml&amp;amp;referer=2639&amp;amp;Ntk=main_search&amp;amp;Ntx=mode%2B" mce_href="http://harvardbusinessonline.hbsp.harvard.edu/b02/en/search/searchResults.jhtml?Ntt=o%27mahony&amp;amp;searchCategory=hbo&amp;amp;N=0&amp;amp;hbr=%2Fhbrol%2Fen%2Fsearch%2FsaSearchResults.jhtml&amp;amp;hbo=%2Fb02%2Fen%2Fsearch%2FsearchResults.jhtml&amp;amp;referer=2639&amp;amp;Ntk=main_search&amp;amp;Ntx=mode%2B"&gt;established companies&lt;/A&gt; work with &lt;A href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=357323" mce_href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=357323"&gt;foundations and communities&lt;/A&gt;. Karim’s understanding of distributed innovation &lt;A href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=290305" mce_href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=290305"&gt;spans from the early days&lt;/A&gt; of OSS’ popularity &lt;A href="http://drfd.hbs.edu/fit/public/facultyInfo.do?facInfo=ovr&amp;amp;facEmId=klakhani" mce_href="http://drfd.hbs.edu/fit/public/facultyInfo.do?facInfo=ovr&amp;amp;facEmId=klakhani"&gt;through Wikipedia and beyond&lt;/A&gt; (we learned on Monday that there is a vibrant online user innovation community around custom granola recipes…).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Their research and practitioners like Allison (&lt;A href="http://port25.technet.com/archive/2006/08/15/Learning-from-OSCON-2006.aspx" mce_href="http://port25.technet.com/archive/2006/08/15/Learning-from-OSCON-2006.aspx"&gt;and others&lt;/A&gt;) abstracting out how what-worked-in-her-experience might apply to another technology or audience are directly relevant to diverse Microsoft teams figuring out how to “go open” in ways that are sustainable because they engage a community and make business sense—there are some great examples (&lt;A href="http://www.ironruby.com/" mce_href="http://www.ironruby.com/"&gt;here&lt;/A&gt; and &lt;A href="http://www.codeplex.com/Project/ProjectDirectory.aspx?TagName=Sharepoint" mce_href="http://www.codeplex.com/Project/ProjectDirectory.aspx?TagName=Sharepoint"&gt;here&lt;/A&gt; and &lt;A href="http://www.codeplex.com/Project/ProjectDirectory.aspx?TagName=XNA" mce_href="http://www.codeplex.com/Project/ProjectDirectory.aspx?TagName=XNA"&gt;here&lt;/A&gt;). But if there’s one qualification for being the first person in the history of the universe with the title of “Director of Open Source Strategy at Microsoft” (…thanks &lt;A href="http://port25.technet.com/archive/tags/Bill+Hilf/default.aspx" mce_href="http://port25.technet.com/archive/tags/Bill+Hilf/default.aspx"&gt;Bill&lt;/A&gt; and &lt;A href="http://port25.technet.com/archive/tags/Sam+Ramji/default.aspx" mce_href="http://port25.technet.com/archive/tags/Sam+Ramji/default.aspx"&gt;Sam&lt;/A&gt;…) it is this: the humility to understand it would be foolish to try to figure out how to expand this list company-wide on our own, without learning from everyone who has gone before.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;So here is the real a-ha for me: John Wilbanks’ job is a lot harder than mine. He is approaching the &lt;A href="http://sciencecommons.org/" mce_href="http://sciencecommons.org/"&gt;Science Commons&lt;/A&gt; domain with a far less robust body of knowledge and shared understanding across communities than we have in OSS. Some of that may be ten years of “open source” versus a shorter timeframe for applying these concepts to science—but what I tried to articulate at the end of the panel was this: I believe “open source” has achieved a fascinating and valuable thing. It has achieved a balance as an construct which is not just a reductive, narrow focus on source code licensing (which is a component) nor a vague, fuzzy, wishy-washy platitude or marketing slogan (which is a risk and something I know the OSI worries about). It has enough cohesion, flexibility, and surface tension to be something you can study scientifically &lt;I&gt;and&lt;/I&gt; discuss with a shared understanding of how it relates to software &lt;I&gt;or&lt;/I&gt; t-shirts &lt;I&gt;or&lt;/I&gt; science, &lt;I&gt;and&lt;/I&gt; have an intuitive “know-good-practices-when-you-see-them” dimension.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I think the OSI and other leaders in open source contributed to this by striving to maintain fidelity to a core set of values while being flexible rather than doctrinaire. And here at OSCON this strikes me: last year at OSCON 2007 Bill Hilf also announced we were submitting two Microsoft Shared Source licenses to the OSI for approval. This was a milestone I see as not just instrumentally useful to provide clarity to users of these licenses; I see it as fitting as a matter of respect and recognition. And this year we took another step forward with participate08 here at Tim O’Reilly and Allison Randal’s OSCON 2008. I see this as fitting not just instrumentally as a matter of convenience (--lots of the right people happen to be here--) but as a matter of respect and recognition. I hope to be back for participate09.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I am going to close this blog entry on that thought but &lt;A href="http://flickr.com/photos/x180/2691201778/in/set-72157606297321213/" mce_href="http://flickr.com/photos/x180/2691201778/in/set-72157606297321213/"&gt;for one picture&lt;/A&gt; that really is worth a thousand words. Once we get the notes and the whiteboard photos assembled I’ll share more about the discussion, but this image will stick with me a theme for why so many folks did come to think hard and contribute as a part of participate08—and why I am grateful they did:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://port25.technet.com/controlpanel/blogs/$clip_image001[3].jpg" mce_href="$clip_image001[3].jpg"&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://port25.technet.com/images/port25/whiteboard.jpg"&gt;&lt;IMG src="http://port25.technet.com/images/port25/whiteboard.jpg" border=0&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR&gt;(photo by James Duncan Davidson/O'Reilly Media)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;img src="http://port25.technet.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=20134" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://port25.technet.com/archive/tags/Industry+Conferences/default.aspx">Industry Conferences</category><category domain="http://port25.technet.com/archive/tags/OSCON/default.aspx">OSCON</category><category domain="http://port25.technet.com/archive/tags/Bryan+Kirschner/default.aspx">Bryan Kirschner</category><category domain="http://port25.technet.com/archive/tags/Community/default.aspx">Community</category><category domain="http://port25.technet.com/archive/tags/Open+Source/default.aspx">Open Source</category><category domain="http://port25.technet.com/archive/tags/_7E00_FeaturedPost/default.aspx">~FeaturedPost</category></item><item><title>Participate08</title><link>http://port25.technet.com/archive/2008/07/18/participate-08.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:09:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">af7480c4-26b7-468d-87b0-2acebabb473d:20051</guid><dc:creator>Bryan Kirschner</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://port25.technet.com/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=20051</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://port25.technet.com/archive/2008/07/18/participate-08.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;P&gt;On July 21 I will have the honor and pleasure of being the sponsor, host, and an active participant in &lt;A class="" href="http://participate08-opensource.com/Home.html" mce_href="http://participate08-opensource.com/Home.html"&gt;participate08&lt;/A&gt;. participate08 is a one-day summit held in coordination with the O'Reilly Open Source Conference(OSCON). It is designed to facilitate dialogue about open source and other collaborative communities and help explore opportunities for greater participation in the design, development, and deployment of software in the modern IT environment.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The reasons I think it is cool are mostly personal as well as professional. The work of Harvard’s &lt;A href="http://drfd.hbs.edu/fit/public/facultyInfo.do?facInfo=ovr&amp;amp;facEmId=klakhani@hbs.edu" mce_href="http://drfd.hbs.edu/fit/public/facultyInfo.do?facInfo=ovr&amp;amp;facEmId=klakhani@hbs.edu"&gt;Karim Lakhani&lt;/A&gt; (our facilitator in the morning and moderator in the afternoon) has been one of the biggest influences on my perspective on free and open source software (...&lt;A href="http://mitpress.mit.edu/catalog/item/default.asp?ttype=2&amp;amp;tid=11216&amp;amp;mode=toc" mce_href="http://mitpress.mit.edu/catalog/item/default.asp?ttype=2&amp;amp;tid=11216&amp;amp;mode=toc"&gt;that’s kind of a pun&lt;/A&gt;…). I haven’t been familiar with panelist &lt;A href="http://www.gsm.ucdavis.edu/Faculty/index.aspx?id=3058" mce_href="http://www.gsm.ucdavis.edu/Faculty/index.aspx?id=3058"&gt;Siobhan O’Mahony’s&lt;/A&gt; work quite as long, but she is one of, if not “the” leading researcher on how firms work with open source communities. Her work quite literally helps me figure out how to do my job. Panelist &lt;A href="http://creativecommons.org/about/people/#34" mce_href="http://creativecommons.org/about/people/#34"&gt;John Wilbanks&lt;/A&gt; runs the &lt;A href="http://sciencecommons.org/" mce_href="http://sciencecommons.org/"&gt;Science Commons&lt;/A&gt; project at &lt;A href="http://creativecommons.org/" mce_href="http://creativecommons.org"&gt;Creative Commons&lt;/A&gt;, an endeavor I think has a good solid foundation in &lt;A href="http://creativecommons.org/about/" mce_href="http://creativecommons.org/about/"&gt;elements of brilliance&lt;/A&gt;. Speaking of which, &lt;A href="http://weblog.infoworld.com/openresource/" mce_href="http://weblog.infoworld.com/openresource/"&gt;Zack Urlocker&lt;/A&gt; is a super smart guy. And &lt;A href="http://port25.technet.com/archive/2007/10/25/allison-randalon.aspx" mce_href="http://port25.technet.com/archive/2007/10/25/allison-randalon.aspx"&gt;Allison Randal&lt;/A&gt; has her own standing tagline with me as “one of the most thoughtful people in FOSS.”&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Sometimes we have to focus on what I’ll call day-to-day issues: like what if a Microsoft team releases an application under an open source license (the Ms-PL) without making the source code available? (The answer is: the team, whose disconnect with our policy was 100% accidental and unintended—stepped up to strongly affirm their commitment to OSS best practices and &lt;A href="http://port25.technet.com/archive/2008/07/02/sandcastle-redux.aspx" mce_href="http://port25.technet.com/archive/2008/07/02/sandcastle-redux.aspx"&gt;voluntarily released it with source code&lt;/A&gt;, to their great credit.) These are important. Most of the time (as in this case) things turn out positively. But participate08 is focused on the big picture, or macro level issues—the future of distributed innovation in software and beyond; being a part of that sort of discussion with folks like our panelists is just mind-blowingly cool.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;In the morning, we’ll be holding a small group, facilitated “executive session”—in the afternoon, &lt;A href="http://participate08.com/Speakers.html" mce_href="http://participate08.com/Speakers.html"&gt;the panel&lt;/A&gt; will star in an &lt;A href="http://en.oreilly.com/oscon2008/public/schedule/detail/3724" mce_href="http://en.oreilly.com/oscon2008/public/schedule/detail/3724"&gt;open session&lt;/A&gt; where we hope to have a great dialogue among the panel—and with the audience. If you will be at OSCON I hope you’ll join us in E145 at 1:30 PM!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;img src="http://port25.technet.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=20051" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://port25.technet.com/archive/tags/Industry+Conferences/default.aspx">Industry Conferences</category><category domain="http://port25.technet.com/archive/tags/OSCON/default.aspx">OSCON</category><category domain="http://port25.technet.com/archive/tags/Bryan+Kirschner/default.aspx">Bryan Kirschner</category><category domain="http://port25.technet.com/archive/tags/Community/default.aspx">Community</category><category domain="http://port25.technet.com/archive/tags/Open+Source/default.aspx">Open Source</category><category domain="http://port25.technet.com/archive/tags/_7E00_FeaturedPost/default.aspx">~FeaturedPost</category></item><item><title>OSCON and Everything After</title><link>http://port25.technet.com/archive/2007/08/29/oscon-and-everything-after.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 03:09:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">af7480c4-26b7-468d-87b0-2acebabb473d:4210</guid><dc:creator>Bryan Kirschner</dc:creator><slash:comments>6</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://port25.technet.com/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=4210</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://port25.technet.com/archive/2007/08/29/oscon-and-everything-after.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana" size="2"&gt;When I describe my job as &amp;ldquo;helping Microsoft and open source to grow together,&amp;rdquo; I get a broad range of reactions from people outside and inside of Microsoft.&amp;nbsp; These reactions have included sentiments along the lines of &amp;ldquo;that must be tough,&amp;rdquo; or &amp;ldquo;you must be a glutton for punishment&amp;rdquo; on occasion.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana" size="2"&gt;After wrapping up a fairly momentous year* culminating in OSCON (see &lt;a href="http://port25.technet.com/archive/2007/07/26/open-source-at-microsoft.aspx" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; text-underline: single"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://port25.technet.com/archive/2007/07/26/intelligent-design-the-osi-and-microsoft.aspx" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; text-underline: single"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;), I thought the time was right to put some big-picture context around how I feel about my job.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana" size="2"&gt;The year 1995 was when we saw the first official public release (0.6.2) of the &lt;a href="http://httpd.apache.org/ABOUT_APACHE.html" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; text-underline: single"&gt;Apache server&lt;/a&gt;, and&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://dev.mysql.com/tech-resources/interviews/david-axmark.html" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; text-underline: single"&gt;MySQL AB was founded&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana" size="2"&gt;The world was two years shy of the &lt;a href="http://www.debian.org/social_contract.html#guidelines" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; text-underline: single"&gt;Debian Software Guidelines&lt;/a&gt; and three years away from the articulation of the &lt;a href="http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.php" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; text-underline: single"&gt;Open Source Definition&lt;/a&gt; (OSD) they inspired.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana" size="2"&gt;The &lt;a href="http://www.ccp14.ac.uk/ccp/web-mirrors/ghostscript/about/index.htm" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; text-underline: single"&gt;Open Source Technology Group (OSTG)&lt;/a&gt;&amp;mdash;by virtue of operating both Sourceforge and Freshmeat today&amp;rsquo;s largest hoster of public open source project--was about to be founded.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana" size="2"&gt;We were at the very beginning of the growth of open source into a significant, enduring part of the IT environment.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana" size="2"&gt;So what&amp;rsquo;s this graph below showing over the course of&amp;nbsp; (roughly) 1995 through 2007?&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana" size="2"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="269" src="http://port25.technet.com/photos/images/images/4213/original.aspx" width="446" /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana" size="2"&gt;It&amp;rsquo;s showing Microsoft&amp;rsquo;s reported fiscal year revenue, which grew to $51.122B USD in 2007 from $6.075B in 1995 (you can reproduce it with data from &lt;a href="http://www.microsoft.com/msft/financial/default.mspx" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; text-underline: single"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana" size="2"&gt;During most of this time, we didn&amp;rsquo;t have &lt;a href="http://www.codeplex.com/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; text-underline: single"&gt;Codeplex&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;We didn&amp;rsquo;t have &lt;a href="http://port25.technet.com/archive/2007/07/26/intelligent-design-the-osi-and-microsoft.aspx" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; text-underline: single"&gt;licenses submitted to the OSI&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;We didn&amp;rsquo;t have &lt;a href="http://port25.technet.com/default.aspx" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; text-underline: single"&gt;Port 25&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;We didn&amp;rsquo;t have &lt;a href="http://port25.technet.com/archive/tags/Bill+Hilf/default.aspx" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; text-underline: single"&gt;Bill Hilf&lt;/a&gt;, or &lt;a href="http://port25.technet.com/archive/tags/Sam+Ramji/default.aspx" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; text-underline: single"&gt;Sam Ramji&lt;/a&gt;, or the rest of the OSS lab.&lt;br /&gt;And we didn&amp;rsquo;t have &lt;a href="http://microsoft.com/opensource" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; text-underline: single"&gt;http://microsoft.com/opensource&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana" size="2"&gt;And Microsoft and open source did grow, together&amp;mdash;coincidentally.&amp;nbsp; In retrospect, this is not surprising. Microsoft technologies supported an ecosystem of passionate developers and an entrepreneurial individuals and companies and tens of millions of end-user programmers and end-users providing peer-to-peer assistance sharing knowledge&amp;mdash;and code&amp;mdash;with each other.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana" size="2"&gt;And we had many people at Microsoft working on (to highlight some of my current favorites) the research and development and product management path to technologies like &lt;a href="http://silverlight.net/Community/Default.aspx" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; text-underline: single"&gt;Silverlight&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/xna/default.aspx" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; text-underline: single"&gt;XNA&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://labs.live.com/photosynth/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; text-underline: single"&gt;Photosynth&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana" size="2"&gt;Now we have all those things&amp;mdash;plus the opportunity to think every day about the &amp;ldquo;growing together&amp;rdquo; that has happened coincidentally from (say) 1995 until July 2007&amp;mdash;and how we might work together with others to make it that much more (--food for thought: MySQL&amp;rsquo;s &lt;a href="http://www.planetmysql.org/kaj/?page_id=18" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; text-underline: single"&gt;Community VP&lt;/a&gt; Kaj Arno blogged about the WAMP stack just after OSCON &lt;a href="http://www.planetmysql.org/kaj/?p=122" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; text-underline: single"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana" size="2"&gt;There are reasons why my job can be challenging sometimes&amp;mdash;but the slightest concern that Microsoft and open source don&amp;rsquo;t have opportunities to &amp;ldquo;grow together&amp;rdquo; by design faster and farther than they have (largely)** &amp;ldquo;by accident&amp;rdquo; over the last 10 plus years isn&amp;rsquo;t among them.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana" size="2"&gt;The &amp;ldquo;official&amp;rdquo; t-shirt of the Open Source Software Lab at Microsoft says &amp;ldquo;Open Source Software Lab at Microsoft: Reports of Snowballs Seen in Hell.&amp;rdquo; This year was another step forward to replacing that slogan with &amp;ldquo;Open Source Software Lab at Microsoft: Of Course.&amp;rdquo;&amp;nbsp; Then I&amp;rsquo;ll get the answer I give back to people when I describe my job: not tough. Cool.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana" size="2"&gt;*I have internalized a July-to-June fiscal year calendar.&amp;nbsp; I attribute this to the fact that my wife works in education, so summer forms an annual breakpoint for her, as well as to the fact I worked in Finance during a point in my life when I think I mistook a love of math for an affinity for pain.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana" size="2"&gt;**There&amp;rsquo;s more than enough material for, and reason to do, a separate post about some of the individual &amp;ldquo;pioneers&amp;rdquo; at Microsoft, without whom we would not have the resources we have in place today here at Microsoft.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana"&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;img src="http://port25.technet.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=4210" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://port25.technet.com/archive/tags/Industry+Conferences/default.aspx">Industry Conferences</category><category domain="http://port25.technet.com/archive/tags/OSCON/default.aspx">OSCON</category><category domain="http://port25.technet.com/archive/tags/Bryan+Kirschner/default.aspx">Bryan Kirschner</category><category domain="http://port25.technet.com/archive/tags/Community/default.aspx">Community</category></item></channel></rss>