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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://port25.technet.com/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Port 25: The Open Source Community at Microsoft : Bryan Kirschner, IronPython</title><link>http://port25.technet.com/archive/tags/Bryan+Kirschner/IronPython/default.aspx</link><description>Tags: Bryan Kirschner, IronPython</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2007.1 (Build: 40109.1145)</generator><item><title>Open Government Collaboratives</title><link>http://port25.technet.com/archive/2008/10/28/the-love-of-ironruby.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:33:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">af7480c4-26b7-468d-87b0-2acebabb473d:21503</guid><dc:creator>Bryan Kirschner</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://port25.technet.com/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=21503</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://port25.technet.com/archive/2008/10/28/the-love-of-ironruby.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" mce_keep="true"&gt;The city of Matsue, Japan is using Ruby to &lt;A href="http://goscon.org/?q=node/70" mce_href="http://goscon.org/?q=node/70"&gt;promote regional economic development&lt;/A&gt;. One of the unexpected highlights of the recent &lt;A href="http://port25.technet.com/archive/2008/10/14/goscon-2008.aspx" mce_href="http://port25.technet.com/archive/2008/10/14/goscon-2008.aspx"&gt;GOSCON&lt;/A&gt;, was a gentleman from Matsue coming up to me after I had given &lt;A href="http://goscon.org/?q=node/115" mce_href="http://goscon.org/?q=node/115"&gt;my talk&lt;/A&gt; about open source and Microsoft and saying "I am using &lt;A href="http://www.ironruby.net/" mce_href="http://www.ironruby.net/"&gt;IronRuby&lt;/A&gt;. I love it."&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;It was a nice moment because - even in the best of times - public sector IT typically has resource constraints that make it tough for them to think aspirationally about technology.&amp;nbsp; And right now isn't the best of times.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;But if you step out of the current challenges for a moment, it was a reminder that whether you're a developer at Microsoft or at the &lt;A href="http://factfinder.census.gov/home/saff/main.html?_lang=en" mce_href="http://factfinder.census.gov/home/saff/main.html?_lang=en"&gt;Census Bureau&lt;/A&gt;, you have the potential to contribute to something people would love. (Why do people &lt;A href="http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/ThematicMapFramesetServlet?_bm=y&amp;amp;-geo_id=86000US98103&amp;amp;-tm_name=DEC_2000_SF3_U_M00175&amp;amp;-ds_name=DEC_2000_SF3_U&amp;amp;-_MapEvent=displayBy&amp;amp;-_dBy=140&amp;amp;-_lang=en&amp;amp;-_sse=on" mce_href="http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/ThematicMapFramesetServlet?_bm=y&amp;amp;-geo_id=86000US98103&amp;amp;-tm_name=DEC_2000_SF3_U_M00175&amp;amp;-ds_name=DEC_2000_SF3_U&amp;amp;-_MapEvent=displayBy&amp;amp;-_dBy=140&amp;amp;-_lang=en&amp;amp;-_sse=on"&gt;at the north end of my zip code take 5 minutes longer to get work&lt;/A&gt;? On a percentage of the mean basis, that's huge. Does the disruption of the grid by the lake have that much of an impact? Yes, I am a long-time GIS nerd.&amp;nbsp; Ironically, there is a &lt;A href="http://www.mpcer.nau.edu/nerd/nerdstarted.htm" mce_href="http://www.mpcer.nau.edu/nerd/nerdstarted.htm"&gt;nerd GIS&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;- although, sadly, it is an acronym and not a density plot of nerds per square mile...).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;On a more practical level, "&lt;A href="http://goscon.org/files/site08.goscon.org/Government%20Open%20Source%20Consortia%20Showcased.pdf" mce_href="http://goscon.org/files/site08.goscon.org/Government%20Open%20Source%20Consortia%20Showcased.pdf"&gt;open government collaboratives&lt;/A&gt;" was a theme of the conference.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; This is a consortium-based approach to development -f or example, multiple cities cooperating to develop a web toolkit for libraries.&amp;nbsp; (Brian Prentice and Andrea Di Maio at Gartner call this "&lt;A href="http://www.gartner.com/DisplayDocument?ref=g_search&amp;amp;id=527822" mce_href="http://www.gartner.com/DisplayDocument?ref=g_search&amp;amp;id=527822"&gt;community source&lt;/A&gt;.")&amp;nbsp; The good news is that both open source and Microsoft can play useful - and complementary - roles in this.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Open source has demonstrated a set of practices, and open source communities have developed a pool of technologies - &lt;A href="http://plone.org/" mce_href="http://plone.org/"&gt;Plone&lt;/A&gt;, for example, was a popular CMS that government collaboratives &lt;A href="http://goscon.org/?q=node/138" mce_href="http://goscon.org/?q=node/138"&gt;customized&lt;/A&gt;. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I wound up speaking to a couple folks about things like enabling single-sign on with Active Directory into their Plone-based systems.&amp;nbsp; This is exactly what Sam Ramji describes (&lt;A href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1142" mce_href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1142"&gt;in graphic detail&lt;/A&gt;) as our open source strategy: as the application ecosystem (including open source applications) on Windows grows, products like Active Directory become more relevant. (In the case of &lt;A href="http://www.microsoft.com/interop/adinterop.mspx" mce_href="http://www.microsoft.com/interop/adinterop.mspx"&gt;Active Directory&lt;/A&gt;, and &lt;A href="http://port25.technet.com/archive/2008/04/29/mms-cross-platform.aspx" mce_href="http://port25.technet.com/archive/2008/04/29/mms-cross-platform.aspx"&gt;System Center&lt;/A&gt;, those applications don't need to be on Windows.) &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I started my talk with two simple declarative statements: open source is neither a fad, nor a magic bullet.&amp;nbsp; Microsoft products are neither a fad, nor a magic bullet (mildly interesting diff for a slow day: &lt;A href="http://search.live.com/results.aspx?q=%2bopen+source+magic+bullet++fad&amp;amp;FORM=RCRE" mce_href="http://search.live.com/results.aspx?q=%2bopen+source+magic+bullet++fad&amp;amp;FORM=RCRE"&gt;live&lt;/A&gt; &lt;A href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;amp;q=open+source+magic+bullet++fad&amp;amp;btnG=Google+Search&amp;amp;aq=f&amp;amp;oq=" mce_href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;amp;q=open+source+magic+bullet++fad&amp;amp;btnG=Google+Search&amp;amp;aq=f&amp;amp;oq="&gt;google&lt;/A&gt;). &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;More importantly, over and over again, this was the right starting point for a face-to-face conversation with the IT managers attending GOSCON.&amp;nbsp; For most, this is where they are as well - considering all the tools in the toolbox, trying to determine the "best tool for the job."&amp;nbsp; That can be challenging, but it's a bilateral, constructive challenge we can work together on-to find a solution set that developers and users &lt;A href="http://edge.networkworld.com/community/node/33519" mce_href="http://edge.networkworld.com/community/node/33519"&gt;will love.&lt;/A&gt;&lt;A href="http://edge.networkworld.com/community/node/33519" mce_href="http://edge.networkworld.com/community/node/33519"&gt;&lt;FONT face=Calibri color=#0000ff size=3&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;img src="http://port25.technet.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=21503" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://port25.technet.com/archive/tags/Industry+Conferences/default.aspx">Industry Conferences</category><category domain="http://port25.technet.com/archive/tags/IronPython/default.aspx">IronPython</category><category domain="http://port25.technet.com/archive/tags/Bryan+Kirschner/default.aspx">Bryan Kirschner</category><category domain="http://port25.technet.com/archive/tags/Interop/default.aspx">Interop</category><category domain="http://port25.technet.com/archive/tags/Community/default.aspx">Community</category><category domain="http://port25.technet.com/archive/tags/Open+Source/default.aspx">Open Source</category></item></channel></rss>