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Hyperic: Java-based Cross-platform Management by Sam Ramji on June 15, 2007 04:38PM

I had the opportunity to sit down with Javier Soltero, CEO of Hyperic last month in San Francisco at the OSBC.  We had a great discussion, which I opened bluntly by saying, “You don’t need to tell me about your software; I’ve seen it, my lab team thinks it’s cool, and we’re impressed.”  He was happy to hear it but probably not surprised.

One of the obvious pros of the open source model (like the freeware model of the 90’s) is that you can get what you want without calling anyone or firing off a “please contact me” request to the company’s sales department.  Another equally obvious pro is that prospective customers can really walk through the product’s architecture and actual implementation to make sure that the marketing promises (“marketechture”) actually line up with the product being described. 

Kishi Malhotra and Stephen Zarkos – the OSSL’s experts on manageability – did a comprehensive teardown of Hyperic and a range of other open source management technologies (such as Nagios and OpenPegasus), which they’ll be posting in the next few days.  What they found about Hyperic is that it does a great job of making a low-footprint, easily adaptable management technology and is commercializing it in an open source model.  We thought that SIGAR, their agent API, was particularly clever. 

Javier and Doug MacEachern (their CTO, and a maintainer for mod_perl among other achievements) spent some time on a podcast with me last week – if you’re interested in hearing their reasons for building Hyperic, how it compares to Nagios, and what they learned in taking their product open source, listen in.  They’ll be available to answer questions on this post as well – leave a comment if you’re curious about something they’re doing.

Also, drop us a note and let us know if you interested in more interviews with open source and interoperability technology leaders on Port 25.

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  1. posted at 06:21PM 06/19/2007
  2. Durethia said:

    "You don't need to tell me about your software... my lab team ..."

    With all due respect, Open Source (and UNIX/BSD in general) ego is a given, expected and to some degree earned.  Steve Balmer might be content with MSFT stock numbers and figure the the same is earned for Microsoft employees but I think it's a bit overwhelming, especially considering the lack of appeal Microsoft has amongst many.

    If Alan Cox popped off a phrase that seemed a shade too elitist, I might be inclined to consider the source, in a positive manner.  "Well, it is Alan Cox after all!"

    If a Microsoft employee popped off a similar phrase, I'll consider the source too, but in a negative manner.  "Oh, this kid must think he's the sole authority of this subject just because he works for Microsoft."

    No matter how tolerable, faint and or acceptable, there is always a modicum of distaste for egotism.  So, if one half of you is sure to make people angry behind your back, the very little bit for the side that people might embrace will be, the proverbial, 'straw that broke the camels back'.

    posted at 12:00AM 06/20/2007
  3. Sam Ramji said:

    Durethia - clearly you're offended by my phrasing, and my takeaway is that it doesn't translate well to the Web.  Javier understood that I was coming from a basis of respect and not arrogance.

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    You can read Kishi and Stephen's research here: http://port25.technet.com/archive/2007/06/21/systems-manageability-part-five-monitoring.aspx  

    posted at 12:19AM 06/22/2007
  4. jsoltero said:

    Agreed. Both Doug and I were quite flattered by the comment. Sam, Kishi and the rest of the lab team are a bunch of very smart folks. The fact that they took the time to look at our technology in detail and came out with such a good impression is exactly what we would hope for.

    On a separate note, I wanted to clarify that Doug was actually the creator of mod_perl (and inherently its maintainer). Since mod_perl has had such an important role in the development of the web, I figured it'd be important to call that out.

    posted at 11:13AM 06/22/2007
  5. hypovex said:

    Jesus christ, go take a friggin nap.

    posted at 01:16PM 07/11/2007
  6. hypovex said:

    Durethia: go take a friggin nap.

    posted at 01:17PM 07/11/2007
  7. Durethia said:

    Please accept my apologies.  I mistook his statement, and my own hypocrisy got the better of me to hip-shot such a remark under the prejudice of my dislike towards Microsoft in general.

    posted at 05:42PM 08/30/2007
  8. Sam Ramji said:

    Thanks, Durethia.  We are trying hard to earn our way out of the prejudices you mention.

    posted at 05:45PM 08/31/2007
  9. Well let's face it, MS is sort of an "Elitist" group per say'. Just walk down any electronics store or computer store, hell, even a toy store and in each of these the isles are dominated with software and hardware that runs with and on MS made products. Fact.

    Don't lose hope! (Everyone needs competition)

    At the start of this year I found myself facing disablement from war, and with this new found status I decided to change up the batting order even more so, and so, I embraced Open Source.

    It has been interesting to say the least. Especially so after having been on countless MS Beta Teams, meetings via phone, computer, and in person with MS staff and management... I still recall some of my first close work with MS, you know, the inside minds of the, "Elitist" Inc. hehe.... How many of you can recall a, "Charles Ferguson" whom I think started a lil known company named Vermeer? :)

    Anyhow, there are a couple of important things that I have learned in my most recent jump over to the GNU side.

    A better understanding of how truly valuable "Marketing" is to any form of business.

    That unfortunately most creative marketing designers only go where the money is, and hence, where the money isn't the marketing isn't.

    That MS could do a better job of engaging the end user in more "Browser-Centric" usability.

    One most be running on 85% Geek blood in order to even begin to understand (LIKE) PHP and MySQL.

    Friendly Usability is Paramount.

    And the last important thing that I have learned while toying in the land of "FREE"dom (com) . . .

    "When someone tells you that they have, "The Converter", don't believe the hype."

    With that said I can also share with you that I DO believe I know what the primary elements are that are contributing to the slow market increase in GNU. I should just add that you should keep your eyes peeled as I attempt to offer this strategy data to "those with a need to know" and i'm sorry team MS, but that means ya aint gonna hear it here first. ;)

    Excuse the impartial off subject writing, wasn't sure where else to place it. (..and wanted this subject buried slightly.)

    Peace & Light,

    Caliwebman

    http://www.scottbruno.com

    posted at 10:45AM 10/23/2007
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